Updated on March 16, 2017 at 07:45 UTC
Simili similis gaudet

Simili similis gaudet –  like rejoices in like.

In many aspects Dirk Laureyssens and the villain of this story manifest many similarities. No wonder they rejoiced happily in bashing the Keshe Foundation. We would not be surprised to eventually find out later, that their relationship started much earlier, not just around trading a certain Korean brand water filter, or offering platforms to attract inventors around themselves and grab new intellectual property hints.

As Dirk Laureyssens tried to cause havoc to the Keshe Foundation by his designed logo copyright retraction, similarly  our villain tried to cause financial havoc by claiming via lawyers an enormous amount of money, worth of a luxury house in his country of origin. (Keshe Foundation’s answer to the copyright retraction is available in form of public notice).

Renegades of their ancestors’ or their neighbors’ belief systems, both sought their ways through the Buddhism, but in a personal interpretation, Dirk Laureyssens via his holonic interpretation of the Universe, and his friend via the controversial path of Lama Drukpa Kunley.

The villain of the story the alleged “Sir” Sylvester Belso, real name Belső Szilveszter, a Hungarian national, who resides lately in Korea. In Hungarian language Belső means “interior”, “inner” or “inside”.

Nomen est omenname is destiny.

A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city.

But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.

He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague. — Marcus Tullius Cicero, from a speech given to the Roman Senate, recorded in approximately 42 B.C. by Sallust.

A “Sir” meets Keshe Foundation

The man, who presents himself as Sir Sylvester Belso has approached the Keshe Foundation by email with subject “I would like to run a Keshe Foundation” on date of October 26th, 2015 and later via the Hungarian Language Keshe Study Group on November 9th 2015.

He asked for opportunity to talk with Mehran Tavakoli Keshe, and he got that in the public, interactive lecture of November 19th 2015. He introduced himself as a nanotechnology expert with over 10 years’ experience and he offered help by his professional team of designers and product developers, who used to work for his companies. He also recommended his wife as she is willing to learn everything directly form the source.

Mehran Tavakoli Keshe answered him that the Keshe Foundation welcomes those with good expertise in nanotechnology.

On November 21st Sir Sylvester Belso was called in a closed meeting with Mehran Tavakoli Keshe and members of management of the Foundation. At this meeting, Sir Sylvester Belso has presented his professional history and his deemed skills as being expert in nanotechnology with ten years of R&D experience. He also told about his wish to contribute by his skills to the development of the Keshe Foundation.

Mehran Tavakoli Keshe told him about the Keshe Foundation has an open position for somebody, who to lead the creation of a worldwide network of manufacturing companies under the condition of expected turnover of EUR 1-3 billion by 2016 and EUR 300 billion by 2017-2018. He offered a top manager level annual compensation, along with a trial period of 6 months to 12 months.

Mehran Tavakoli Keshe proposed him to come to meet at Barletta (BA) Italy, ETA by Monday, November 23rd night or latest by Tuesday, November 24th morning to discuss the details.

Sylvester Belso accepted to take responsibility for the management position for the establishment of a global manufacturing network of products based on application of the new technologies discovered by Mehran Tavakoli Keshe and developed under the Keshe Foundation, he said he was not surprised, as his intention was anyway to get such an offer.

In spite of his shiny self-introduction and his busyness in work it became proven that he is not that expert that he claims to be, and his talents are not enough to get even close to achieve the targets he has assumed under his responsibility. Nevertheless, the Foundation thanked his efforts and compensated him with a fair amount of money.

His claimed expertise in nanotechnology were unveiled to be confined to the obfuscating use of some bogus technical words, and we suspect that his interest to help was limited to the intention to get close to the Foundation’s know-how and trade secrets, and eventually to integrate them into his own private business.

When he did talk about his experience in nanotechnology, he did not give the credits and respect to the real developer and inventor, Mr. Hiroshi Katayama of Threehills Co., Ltd.

When Sir Sylvester Belso introduced himself to the Keshe Foundation, he misrepresented himself regarding his membership in the Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem Knights of Malta Federation of Autonomous Priories (KMFAP).

Sylvester with badge 2b

He was seen wearing on the lapel of his jacket a small, round and red badge with a white Cross of Malta symbol, sometimes near another badge representing a compass and ruler, and he signed his letters “Sir Sylvester Belso”, “Sir” being a title used by knights. People of the Foundation asked him about is he a knight or not. He gave inconsistent, contradictory statements.

On Feb. 13 he declared that based on his request he is NOT MEMBER of the KMFAP organization.

Later on Apr. 11 he declared that he is INACTIVE MEMBER of KMFAP, which is in contradiction with his previous declaration.

A fake knight and a cheated real knight

In order to clarify Sylvester Belso’s credibility, the Foundation did a research to find out what is the truth.

Investition ceremony 2011-05-14

When members of the Foundation asked him, why he wears the badge representing a Cross of Malta on red background, he explained that he was invited by some friends to become a Knight of Malta in order to get protection against criminals, who tried to ruin his business and threatened him with death. Later he told the story that he left the Knights of Malta because he did not agree to pay the required annual membership fee in amount of 20,000 EUR (at another time he told inconsistently about 10,000 EUR membership fee). He told a story about those, who introduced him to the Knights of Malta tried to extort him and threatened him, and these people are criminal, that’s why he left the Knights of Malta. This is another inconsistency, as once he said that he became Knight in order to get personal protection, and later he said that the Knights were threatening him, and are criminals. Furthermore, he never explained why he keeps wearing the Sir title as Sir Sylvester, and why he wears the insignia of the Knights, if he is not anymore a member. The website of the Knights of Malta states that the annual membership fee is of only 200 EUR per year, and certainly not 20,000 EUR and not 10,000 EUR as Sir Sylvester lied.

KMFAP membership fee in Hungary

As the KMFAP.HU website states, the Hungarian Grand Priory can charge a particular membership fee of an amount of 20 000 HUF, Hungarian Forints worth of about 65 EUR, but not 20 000 EUR.

Why should somebody lie about such minor matters, as the amount of membership fee? What reason could lead one to exaggerate the figures 100 times?

If the figures told about the amount of the membership fee are not true, what is the truth of the other affirmations concerning Sir Sylvester’s Knighthood, and his relations with Knight of Malta (KMFAP)?

Did Sylvester join KMFAP to get personal protection? On the other hand, has he needed protection against the so-called criminals, who invited him into the KMFAP?

Is he respecting his oath to support and protect the prestige of the Order of Knights with words and deeds, when he allegedly calls its members criminals?

Has Sylvester left the Knights of Malta, or is he a member of the organization? If he has left them, why is he pretending to be a Knight by wearing their badge and the Sir title?

Is he respecting his oath to support and protect the prestige of the Order of Knights with words and deeds, when he allegedly calls its members criminals?

Has Sylvester left the Knights of Malta, or is he a member of the organization? If he has left them, why is he pretending to be a Knight by wearing their badge and the Sir title?

“We do not care if somebody is member of Cavalry or not, but we care whether one is truthful or deceiver.”

For your information, we are attaching here a copy of a recent correspondence with  ███ ██████████████ – █████████████████████ of the Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, Knights of Malta, Federation of the Autonomous Priories (KMFAP) (name and title blanked upon request).

MTK letter to KMFAP 2016-09-05

Annex 1 MTK letter to KMFAP 2016-09-05

Annex 2 MTK letter to KMFAP 2016-09-05

On 05 Sep 2016, at 17:29, Mehran Tavakoli Keshe <███████████████> wrote:

Dear Mr ████████!Thank you for the conversation. Here are some of on line recording of Sylvester below. As you told me he was kicked out for gross misconduct and we need to know how and why?

He has told us that he left because you asked for 10000 and in other case 20000 euro for membership and threatening to kill him as you see in his own word.

That he had to take refuge against you by Masons, and he has repeated this many times to my team.

We have been told these are lies and he has field in application form on these bases and your organization has been laid to believe by us that are criminals.

I have long-standing understanding of the Knight and respect your position. What is important for us is that he has lied to get access to our security and sensitive information for Masons as he says he has left them too.

Please we need as much information about this case urgently that we can assess our position as he has defrauded our foundation too. We have all his pictures of roping and others too

Yours faithfully

M T Keshe

This is in our internal memo reference which I have enclosed below

On 8/31/16 3:15 PM,  ███████████████ wrote:

(…)

Knights of Malta –  for this they introduced me to a ceremony, which was organized in Slovakia, where I was knighted. But they said they are doing this for 10 000 EUR. I told them I will not pay.
These persons belong to criminal groups.

████ ████ [wearing the sword in the above picture] is the strawman of █████ █████ [in the picture below]. My lawyers have records of how they tried to take away from me my nano technology developments [innovations].

I returned them the knight nomination and everything, which was related.

Here [at Knights of Malta] I knew Z██████████l of Transylvania, who was the 33°grand master of a masonic order [lodge].

I got deadly threatening.

I was able to parry them grace to Dr. Z██████████l.

This was the order [lodge] “Three White Lilies”, the first Hungarian masonic order.

I told about these to █████████, █████████ and █████████.

I would have not liked to have issues later.

I am condemning those leaders of the masonic lodge, who are crippling the world. Already there are those [new] leaders who are trying to repair.

In the beginnings [masonic lodges] had no evil.

I left all the secret organizations [societies].

The answer with the shocking truth came shortly.

 letter of knights for press-page-001

letter of knights for press-page-002

letter of knights for press-page-003

letter of knights for press-page-004

Dear Mr. Keshe 

Thanks for all information, I see the whole story now!

We have a Knight sir ██████, who proposed Szilveszter Belső for knighthood! We had several personal meetings with Szilveszter that time and honestly several other Knights of us told that something is not OK with him, he was talking too much and it seems  that not everything is true!

Anyhow we informed him that the necessary administrative fee in case of entry to the Order is 5000 EUR which covers all related expenses. (Decorations, cape, hotel video, photo, ball, etc..

He promised to pay  it and we were trusting him!)

Later I discovered that he was thinking that ██████ will pay this instead of him!

██████ that time became his partner by giving him 260.000 EUR!

After certain time ██████ did see that Szilveszter was spending the money for expensive car and luxury travels, while there was no business development at all!

About same time as nobody paid the promised 5000 EUR fee- the leadership of the Order decided to make the investiture of Szilvester NOT valid and he returned all decorations and cape!

As there was already a strong fight between the business partners,  we requested Sir Z████████l to try to find a solution which will satisfy all partners involved! He tried to do his best to realise the business of Szilveszter and help him to pay back the money for ██████!

Some Years ago Z████████l passed away but as I know ██████ did not trust much in his efforts!

We, leaders of the Order from the beginning stated that we have nothing to do with their business conflicts!

We also several times proposed to ██████ that if he is sure he must turn to the Police and to the Court! I do not know if he did or not!

I do not know the other partners of ██████ and also have no information about their steps.

I have no contacts with the Free Masons but I am quite sure Szilveszter was never a member!

KMFAP is not a secret Organisation, you can find everything on: www.kmfap.net

Our Order just made his investiture invalid and by this we closed any relations with him.

I do not understand why he is saying what he did but he is not a businessman who can be trusted!

I would propose not to have any business with him!

If he is in danger, why does he not go to the Police???

Something is wrong about him and I am not believing he is in any danger other that soon or later police will take him and he will end in Jail!

I hope I could help You with my answers, if You need anything else, please let me know, how ever I do not have time for such persons and their conflicts!

Best regards

████████████

 

This sounds not like Sylvester Belso left the Knights of Malta, because the Knights caused harm to him, but he has been removed from among the Knights due to ethical issues, not limited to the deception of his partner by the amount of 260 000 EUR.

Offshore tax haven companies

With the over quarter million Euros got from the cheated knight friend, “Sir” Silvester moved his assets into USA and Seychelles based companies, while his company in Hungary went into bankruptcy and left a debt of over 12 million Hungarian Forints (about 40,000 EUR).

truth and fiction sylvester belso company biokarma 2

He has established first a company Kent Holding Inc. in U.S.A., which now is defunct, and later he established a company Kent Holdings Limited in Seychelles, with practically untraceable records and books.

Kent Holding Inc Little Rock, Arkansas USA
His company of Seychelles deems an annual revenue of over million dollars. If this is true, has he not forgotten to declare his incomes to the tax office of his homeland?

Kent Holdings Limited Seychelles annual revenue over one million USD

Kent Holdings Limited, owner of two trademarked brands, calls itself inventor, while its research and patents are invisible. This is another similarity to the self proclaimed inventor of the foam cube puzzles and various electronics and computing applications, Mr. Dirk Laureyssens.

An abused Japanese invention

Since 2004 Mr. Belso trades some battery life extender foil stickers, the origin of which are much obscured by his vague and bogus, nontechnical descriptions.

akkufresh-hu 2004

In his first promotional text, Mr. Belso describes his “battery renovator” as being made of mainly Radium containing volcanic rock. “It radiates Alpha, Beta and Gamma rays and electrons, dissolving the slug from inside the electrodes, and prevents the formation of the new slag”.

For his bogus claims, one of his distributors of New Zealand was accused by misleading advertising, and had to remove the claimed text from his web shop.

asa complaint misleading advertizing akkufresh brand 2014-08-20

His sales pitch used to advertise his product reveals what level his knowledge in Nano-technology reaches. The above-illustrated advertisement was officially removed in New Zealand due to customer complaint, and it’s content labeled as meaningless technical language, and nonsensical obfuscation.

asa complaint misleading advertizing akkufresh brand 2014-08-20 part 2

“Sir” Sylvester Belso recommended himself to the Keshe Foundation by misleading statements and misrepresenting himself as having extensive experience in Nano-technology Research & Development, but when one reads his soup of nonsense technical words, it becomes suspicious about his pretended technical knowledge.

A research lead to the conclusion that he has no schools of technical nature, and he has been educated as musician, more exactly he was a trumpeter.

Where from has he got the technology that he is exploiting?

We found the real inventor and patent holder is a Japanese scientist, Mr. Hiroshi Katayama, who owns the priority and the rights by the Japanese patent No. 4482882.

activator sheet patent 1

activator sheet patent 2

Meanwhile Mr. Belso’s company Kent Holdings Limited advertises that it grants licenses to their exclusively developed and copyrighted inventions to startup companies, that demonstrate financial capabilities…

Kent Holdings Limited grants licenses

All that Kent Holding owns as intellectual property are its registered trademarks, hence the technology itself belongs to its Japanese inventor.

Mr. Hiroshi Katayama declares in a notarial act on August 6th, 2014 that he is the patent holder of the Energizing battery sheet, called AKU+, AkkuFresh, Denpita, Bat-max etc., and company COREnergy Kft. is the sole and exclusive distributor of the Energizing battery sheet in the territory of worldwide except Japan, China, Vietnam, South Korea, Indonesia, Australia, Canada and U.S.A.  Kent Holdings Limited is not mentioned.

Sole and exclusive distribution Hiroshi Katayama declaration 2014-08-06

Sylvester Belso’s battery renovator foil, which he claims it is an exclusive product, is only one of the several brands that have been marketed in the world by several companies, and all say theirs is legitimate.

brands

The Keshe Foundation’s experience with Sylvester Belso

A management member of the Keshe Foundation said:

“Sylvester Belso has induced us in error regarding his technical knowledge and expertise by misrepresenting himself as being lead researcher of R&D in nanotechnology.
When Sylvester came into our organization, we had to teach him about everything related to nanotechnology that we apply.”

“His original discussions were oriented toward insisting to get the members of his web design team employed by the Foundation and have access to the data of our websites and intranet. He also tried to recommend for work in the security team of the Foundation his friend Peter Nemenyi, a Hungarian dissident, who is well known in Hungary for his racist toned rebel political blogs, written from abroad, as an expatriate. We perceived that offer as an attempt to infiltrate and overtake our Foundation by weakening our defense structure. Right now he mobilized the same person along with his other close friends to join his recently conducted defamation campaign against the Keshe Foundation.

We have knowledge reports about Sylvester Belso has proposed to our contracted manufacturer to combine our technology with Sylvester’s technologies with for his private interest.”

Report about Sylvester Belso

Another report reveals that he invited key staff to leave the Keshe Foundation and work for his private company.

Mr. Belso has a trail of successive and repeated copyright infringements

Isn’t he able to understand, what Intellectual Property means above of being a possible source of income?

YouTube karmamaker

YouTube Akkufresh foil technology

Youtube Free Project News

His YouTube videos and channels disabled for copyright infringement tell us, that he did not learn from his past mistakes.

The Keshe Foundation’s Statement regarding Sir Sylvester Belso

“We do not owe any money to Mr. Sylvester Belso.

Whatever amounts we paid him, he obtained by defrauding us by deception and fraudulent personal misrepresentation claiming expertise and skills he has not.

Mr. Sylvester Belso owns to return us the money he has obtained in fraudulent ways.

We are investigating to establish the degree of damage caused by unauthorized copy and private use of vital data as clients’ contact details, trade secrets and sensitive documents, and misuse of Keshe Foundation’s logo in unauthorized way.

Furthermore, Mr. Sylvester Belso has joined and he actively aids persons, who are acting against our organization, and who are under investigation in Italy for terrorism.

We are suspecting Mr. Sylvester Belso with aiding these persons by supplying them insider information regarding our organization and regarding position of our members.

As far as we know, Mr. Sylvester Belso is under investigation by Italian Police in the murder case of Fabio Alfonso, an Italian citizen of Casamassima 70010 BA, who died violently under unclarified circumstances at about ten meters in the front of his car crashed by a TIR truck on Strada Statale 16, at km 784, on July 6th, 2016.”

Accident or murder on Strada Statale 16, km 784

“We feel deeply disappointed by Sylvester Belso’s misrepresentations, his lack of the claimed expertise, and his harmful activities, which he is pursuing against the Keshe Foundation. We had suspicion about his deceptive ways since January, and because of his degree of infiltration, we continued monitoring him. These were the reasons for why the Keshe Foundation decided to get rid of him. He has been offered a trial period to let him prove the worth of his work, and remove our suspicions. Compared to its worth, Sylvester’s work for the Foundation was generously compensated.

There is an ongoing investigation to establish the degree of damage caused by unauthorized copy and private use of vital data as clients’ contact details, trade secrets and sensitive documents, and misuse of Keshe Foundation’s logo in unauthorized way.

We do not owe any money to Mr. Sylvester Belso.

Whatever amounts we paid him, he obtained by defrauding us by deception and fraudulent personal misrepresentation claiming expertise and skills he has not.

Mr. Sylvester Belso owns to return us the money he has obtained in fraudulent ways.

We are investigating to establish the degree of damage caused by unauthorized copy and private use of vital data as clients’ contact details, trade secrets and sensitive documents, and misuse of Keshe Foundation’s logo in unauthorized way.

Furthermore, Mr. Sylvester Belso has joined and he actively aids persons, who are acting against our organization, and who are under investigation in Italy for terrorism.

We are suspecting Mr. Sylvester Belso with aiding these persons by supplying them insider information regarding our organization and regarding position of our members.

As he allegedly defrauded a fellow knight with 260 000 EUR, while he abandoned his domestic creditors and he moved to off-shore companies, of which at least one has been abandoned in the first year leads to suspicion of laundering the money obtained by fraudulent activities and tax avoidance.”

badge

“We learned he likes to decorate himself with Cross of Malta and Masonic badges, luxury watch, expensive Louis Vuitton handbags, bow tie and colorful pocket-handkerchiefs, which confers him an aristocratic outlook. In business talks he says “my secretary just called me”. Meanwhile he is not a Knight, he is not a Mason, he is not as rich as he shows himself, and he has no secretary. A bit of everything he pretends to be, fails at a second check.”

Is he a knight? Nope. Is he a freemason? Sometimes he says yes, and he says he is not, when that status would not be favorable for him. Is he Illuminati? That may be not impossible. Using some badges with Cross of Malta and square and compasses may be a decoy. Alternatively, is he working for some other secret services? Is he a Zionist agent?

There are too many question marks yet.

illuminati

Shoah victim ancestors, fake nationalism, and real antisemitic agents provocateurs

We know Belso ancestors are listed as Holocaust victims by Yad Vashem archives.

Belso Shoah victims 1

Belso Shoah victims 2

Belso Shoah victims 3

Is Sylvester Belso aware of his family history?

He has the habit of talking in mimicked nationalistic tones, emphasizing anachronistic ideas of the Hungarist Movement.

He used to greet and to end conversations with a hypocrite, stereotype blessing: “God bless all the Hungarian people, who peg away at the elevation of Hungarity”, which sounds from his mouth like a blasphemy.

Real Hungarians consider all the fellow Men as brothers and they aim the elevation of the entire Humanity.

Real Hungarian oath is for elevation of Humanity

On his new websites he uses images of faked text trying to resemble to the Old Hungarian Script, but his tentative is really comic, as the text in runes starts at the bottom line and it goes up, and many of the letters are completely mistaken.

lopják és hamisítják a rovást

Who is he trying to fool with such fake appearances?

Why such hyperventilated expression of fake nationalism?

Is he a Zionist agent provocateur? His close friend Nemenyi / Nusser Neumann* fits to this assumption, with his past of anti-Semitic journalism done as an expatriate (

Peter (Andras) Nemenyi (often signed as NPA) used his job related .gov emails (nemenyi@aps.anl.gov and nemenyi@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov) for private purpose on public message boards with political content, and allegedly lost his technician job for this reason.

Some message board content originated from the above emails can be found on some Internet archives, such as:
http://bum.hix.hu/arch/?page=find_articles&authorid=42010
http://bum.hix.hu/arch/?page=find_articles&authorid=49125

Below is a fragment of the long polemics related to Mr. Nemenyi and his dismissal.

Dr Gyorgy Bathori writes:

> Yes! Could happen, that there is nothing “conspiracy” in the Nemenyi
> case. Maybe it is just the professional activity of the roumanian
> intelligent service. Formerly Bela Liptak successfully organized FAX
> and E-mail campaigns for the rights of the hungarian minority in
> Roumania. From that point the roumanian secret service ought to do
> something with the hungarian discussion groups. A deflamation could
> be a good case. May could happen that they wrote a letter to the DOE
> and that ANL in the name of a well known opponent of Mr. Nemenyi. As
> Mr Nemenyi managed to get the name of the letter writer, he became
> convinced that his opponent and the friends of them playing unfair
> cards. Now the various hungarian discussion groups are filled with
> accusations and counter accusations. The relations of the different
> contributor groups became antagonistic. The “danger” of joint actions
> diminished.

This theory at least has the virtue that it is not just another variant of
Mr Nemenyi’s Revised Standard Version, whatever that might be nowadays.
I am afraid I am several episodes behind in this particular soap opera,
ever since I set up my bozo filter to send Mr Nemenyi’s postings straight
to the bit bucket.  Dr Bathory is right: this case is long overdue for a
judicious application of Occam’s razor.

The simplest, and most likely scenario is that Mr Nemenyi fell for the
classic investigative ploy known as the “snitch jacket”.  The idea behind
this technique is to mask the real sources and methods of the investigation
by planting the notion of an informer in the target’s mind, causing
disorientation, paranoia, and a fruitless search for snitches behind every
bush and under every bed.  The technique was extensively used in the sixties
and seventies in the course of the Cointelpro project, aimed at the
destruction of the SDS, the Black Panthers, and other leftist organizations.
It was wildly successful: the targets rapidly self-destructed in an orgy of
fratricidal witchhunts.  Although the Cointelpro program was eventually
discredited, many of its methods are still taught in courses for federal
investigators.  The investigators at Argonne have plenty of reasons to keep
their sources and methods to themselves, perhaps to protect other ongoing
investigations.  We’ll probably never know what turned the spotlight on
Mr Nemenyi.  My guess is ordinary traffic analysis (“Hey Joe, get me the
list of the top 20 mail users by volume, and do a quick altavista search on
each of them”).  The “snitch jacket” must have been an afterthought.  I think
using such a technique on a pathologically gullible guy like Mr Nemenyi falls
under the rubric of cruel and unusual punishment.  This might be another
legal avenue for Mr Nemenyi to seek redress from the Lab.

As to whether Mr Nemenyi was forced out/fired/resigned/laid off for the
officially stated reasons, or for the contents of his writings, I would
say most likely for the latter.  Any large organization has at least two
reasons for every action it might take: the officially stated reason, and
the real reason.  If I were to give the clap to my boss’ daughter, then
I would have to start looking for a new job real soon.  If I were dumb
enough to stick around and wait to be fired, then I am sure the officially
stated reasons for my firing would not mention either the clap or my
boss’ daughter.  This is how the world works.  Quite simple, really.

—–
Gabor Fencsik

***

+ –     NPA — the saga continues (mind)    VÁLASZ     Feladó:  (cikkei)

Andras Kornai wrote:

>>That is great! So I ask Mr. Kornai: Does he mean, that HR. refused to admit
>>any knowledge about the firing of my boss?

>She wouldn’t comment on it one way or the other.

It figures. 🙂

>>How come, that Eva Balogh passed
>>info about it, way before it actually happened?

>I’m sure she faithfully reported what she heard from her Argonne source.

Oh I am sure about it!

>>Oh by the way, NPA.’s boss was not laid off. He was fired after 23 years of
>>clean service, just to stick to the facts!

>Because he mismanaged you, or were other reasons cited?

Because he did not stop me of something, what was not obvious, due to
well done work.

>Her answer was that for the first incident this would be true at
>Argonne as well.  Needless to say, she couldn’t and wouldn’t tell me whether
>there were prior incidents — readers must draw their own conclusions.

>>Thanks for the info. The last sentence is important!

>And so is the one before it.

Did she claimed previous instances? Of course she could not!

>So don’t trust me, I never asked you to. Since I don’t trust you either, I
>asked for independent confirmation. You are not providing any, and what ANL
>says contradicts a major point of your story: they say your resignation was
>voluntary, you say it was forced. In the absence of evidence to the contrary
>I belive them more than I belive you, it’s that simple.

Believe whoever you want to.

>>Now look. The Hungarian Radio wanted my story. So I did not manage anything.
>>They have all the needed info regarding to this case.

>Have you heard of the principle “auditur et altera pars”? Roman law already
>recognizes the fact that you can’t get to the bottom of a case on the basis
>of evidence supplied by one of the parties, you must also hear what the other
>side has to say. Now that I took the trouble to hear what ANL says, it is
>evident that you were (and still are) presenting a highly biased version.

ANL. can provide it’s own story to Radio Petofi. But it seems ANL. does not
even want to discuss anything with you. They are just not interested of the
any PR. of this matter.

>Had Hungarian Radio taken the trouble to check things out with ANL, they would
>have immadiately known that it is not a “va1llalat”. I conclude they never
>checked with ANL, and indeed they have relied on the biased evidence supplied
>by one party, you.

Call them whichever way you like. Maybe they are just a “icipicit vallalat” 🙂
due to the fact, that their APS. division worked on a profit project.
And the proofs of mine seemed satisfactory for the reporter of that Radio.

>>I have no idea, why you
>>talk about ADL.I did not mention them as players of this case.

>No, but Joe Pannon, who seems to be one of your trusted advocates, repeatedly
>did.

Fine. But why did you address this issue to me? Are you trying to attack me
by putting words into my mouth?

>What I’m suggesting is that it is possible that you had prior warnings from
>your management about spending too much company time on the net, so when (and
>if) complaints arrived they already had the case made by your behavior.

Any proofs of it or you just pulled it out of your behind?

>I have no access to this kind of evidence, and have no interest in searching
>for it.

Then why did you mentioned it?

>Since you are the party harmed by Argonne’s actions, or at least you claim to
>be (nobody can blame others for harm caused by their own voluntary action) it
>is in your interest to present some objective evidence supporting your case.

Oh I will. But not to you.

>show me that you have a reasonable (not airtight, just reasonable)
case, and I will support your effort to obtain a fair hearing.

I show you nothing and I don’t need your help a bit. And don’t make me laugh.
You would help me? You are quite funny recently!!!

>Joe Pannon might already be convinced that you have a case, but I am not.

That is your problem.

>The fact that you are focussing your anger on the person(s) of the mythical
>complainer(s) rather than arguing the substance of the complaint(s) or the
>unfairness of the Argonne process seems to indicate that ANL was on quite
>firm ground accepting your resignation, and the union was on equally firm
>ground not going to bat for you.

You don’t get it, do you? I would not even discuss this topic any further if
you and your buddies wouldn’t bring it up, again and again. I can handle
my business quite well. The question is, that why some people are so interested
in this case, bringing it up before it would die off? You have a vested interes
t
in it?

>>Why the hell ADL. should run an investigations? Tell me?

I don’t think they should do so.

Well, than we are on the same frequency!

>Hell, if Noam Chomsky lends his support to outright holocaust-revisionists
>this way, I can certainly support your right to blood libel.

?????

>But make no mistake, I _do_ find your views objectionable, in fact I think
>some of your postings constitute defamation exactly in the sense the ADL
>cares most about, anti-semitic defamation.

So I should get ready for some additional whistle blowing as well? 🙂
Knowing you, nothing surprises me any more!

>>You only snooped around without any success. Be proud of it.

>What is this snooping bit? You encouraged people to look into the matter,
>and both E1va Balogh and I did.

You mean if I say Don’t Do It, then you are not going to do it? Don’t
play games with me, pleeese!

>Since our findings are not what you wanted to hear, we are now both accused
of snooping.

You are wrong. I was delighted to hear, that Eva made an ass out of herself of
spreading false info. And you? You just provided us with nothing. Thanks.

NPA.
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Gabor Fencsik wrote:

>The simplest, and most likely scenario is that Mr Nemenyi fell for the
>classic investigative ploy known as the “snitch jacket”.  The idea behind
>this technique is to mask the real sources and methods of the investigation
>by planting the notion of an informer in the target’s mind, causing
>disorientation, paranoia, and a fruitless search for snitches behind every
>bush and under every bed.

But I did find you “Karesz” !

>The investigators at Argonne have plenty of reasons to keep
>their sources and methods to themselves, perhaps to protect other ongoing
>investigations.

Oh boy, you are applauding too loud to ANL.s protection of the whistle blower.
Do you have some vested interest also? 😉 And what ongoing investigation
are talking about? The case is closed on their part.

>We’ll probably never know what turned the spotlight on Mr Nemenyi.

We will, we will.

>I think using such a technique on a pathologically gullible guy like
>Mr Nemenyi falls under the rubric of cruel and unusual punishment.
>This might be another legal avenue for Mr Nemenyi to seek redress from
>the Lab.

Did I sensed panic on your part? 🙂 Listen…. when you come out with
labels, I know that you are getting nervous.

>Any large organization has at least two reasons for every action it might
>take: the officially stated reason, and the real reason.

Thank you of mentioning this. So according to you, ANL. also used two
reasons? One for me, and one for the record?

>If I were to give the clap to my boss’ daughter, then I would have to start
>looking for a new job real soon.  If I were dumb enough to stick around and
>wait to be fired, then I am sure the officially stated reasons for my firing
>would not mention either the clap or my boss’ daughter.  This is how the
>world works.  Quite simple, really.

You just accused of ANL. of violating some basic rights of mine. Thanks buddy.

NPA.
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Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote:

>A piece of advice to fellow bozo filterers: NPA’s ‘literary works’ are
>in a sense too valuable for the bit bucket (or is it the other way around
>;-)) – consider archiving them instead, if you can spare a few megabytes.
>You never know when you’d need News from a Wild Paralel Universe: such as
>the infamous exploding gerbil-in-anus story, the UNESCO-NAMBLA pedophile
>conspiracy or the likes…

The “exploding gerbil-in-anus story”  was posted by Joseph Hollosi. I guess
you guys just realized that Mr. Hollosi is a Nazi too? ;-)))))))

NPA.
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Gabor Farkas wrote:

>>Whatever has happened with collective responsibility?
>>I hope I made my question simple?

>Not to me. Whose responsibility? For what? Who is the addressee of this
>question?
>A typical example of clarity from this “researcher”.

The addressee of the question is you Mr. Farkas. And you still did not
answer to my question. I asked a question, and you are showering me
with “whose, what, who” words. Seems like, I asked something, you
don’t have opinions on in this very subject. Well I accept this.;-)

NPA.
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At 01:30 PM 7/27/96 -0500, Nemenyi wrote:
>Gabor Farkas wrote:
>
>>>Whatever has happened with collective responsibility?
>>>I hope I made my question simple?
>
>>Not to me. Whose responsibility? For what? Who is the addressee of this
>>question?
>>A typical example of clarity from this “researcher”.
>
>The addressee of the question is you Mr. Farkas. And you still did not
>answer to my question. I asked a question, and you are showering me
>with “whose, what, who” words. Seems like, I asked something, you
>don’t have opinions on in this very subject. Well I accept this.;-)
>
>NPA.
>

I have an idea. Maybe Nemenyi was fired (or “forced to resign”) because his
bosses at ANL realized what becomes more and more obvious from his postings
on Hungary: he does not have the ability of writing  grammatically correct
sentences in English.

This problem of his was probably first accepted as an inherent one, maybe it
was used to improve ANL’s statistics on disabled employees. But then they
discovered from those infamous translations of his Forum postings that this
guy can write, he just does not speak English.

This  probably beats dr. Gyorgy Bathori’s Twilight Zone theory.

Gabor D. Farkas
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Gabor Farkas wrote:

>I have an idea. Maybe Nemenyi was fired (or “forced to resign”) because his
>bosses at ANL realized what becomes more and more obvious from his postings
>on Hungary: he does not have the ability of writing  grammatically correct
>sentences in English.

Big deal! I didn’t have to. 🙂 So now comes the SUPER GUN. English
language.

>This problem of his was probably first accepted as an inherent one, maybe it
>was used to improve ANL’s statistics on disabled employees. But then they
>discovered from those infamous translations of his Forum postings that this
>guy can write, he just does not speak English.

That was your best shoot? I feel sorry for you. Shall we continue in
Hungarian? 😉

NPA.
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At 02:54 PM 7/25/96 -0600, Celia wrote:

>We’ve always had a few people in every religion at every time in human
>history who’ve found reason to think that blood offerings are somehow valid.

        Sure, and in the earliest history of the Jews such thing was
acceptable. Think of the story of Abraham and his son Isaac. But, by the
middle ages, and even earlier, blood as such was “inpure” in Judaism. Jews
wouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot pole. (That’s why kosher cooking is so
awful: they cook everything to death.) It is hard to imagine that a bunch of
Jews would suddenly start collecting Christian blood or any blood for that
matter. At the time when Mr. Nemenyi first posted his, by now infamous,
writing, even people whom I consider to be not at all “liberal” were
horrified!! Several people whom I considered to be the right of me by a mile
wrote in, saying: do you mean that you also believe the stories about those
poor witches in Europe and in North America? Now, surely, not one of us
believe that the medieval witch hunts had any merit whatsoever! Should we
believe that Jewish blood libel cases had any merit whatsoever? Yes, I
guess, if you have an antisemitic bend. Moreover, Mr. Nemenyi’s last example
was a late nineteenth-century Hungarian case!! It just shows, I’m afraid,
how far behind Hungary was in comparison to countries west of her. That
anyone at that late date would believe such story!!! And common, uneduated
folks did believe it, and some antisemitic members of parliament made
political capital out of it, to the shame of the country!! It was big news
in those days all over the world and people were horrified! And, I am sure,
in the privacy of their homes, muttered something like, “Well, you know, the
primitive east Europeans, those primitive Hungarians who came from Asia!!”
That’s the kind of things they most likely said. The poor girl, the victim,
either committed suicide or she was murdered. In any case, her body was
found in the river Tisza! But the very fact that such thing was all over the
Hungarian newspapers and people gave credence to such stories, I’m afraid
doesn’t reflect well on late nineteenth-century Hungary! And, on top of
everything else, we have to hear about it on the Internet in 1995, from a
man, who believes that no justice was served by acquitting the Jews of
Tiszaeszlar, who were falsely accused!!! And we are taking about this man
seriously? Do we take him seriously? Do we think that he is an innocent
victim of an intolerant society?

        Let’s assume that Mr. Nemenyi is not antisemitic (which is hard to
believe, by the way). But then there is the obvious question: why is he
talking about Jewish topics all the time? Why does he find a Jewish culprit
behind every important historical event, be it 1848 or 1917. Why is he so
preoccupied with this particular topic? We know from the horse’s mouth that
he has some Jewish connection, by marriage. I guess, this is the basis of
Barna Bihari’s contention that Mr. Nemenyi couldn’t possibly an antisemite.
But, let’s face it, you can be born a Jew and be an antisemite. I have met
several of them. Just because Mr. Nemenyi was married to a Jewish woman once
upon the time and has a child who is half Jewish that doesn’t mean that Mr.
Nemenyi cannot be antisemitic. Far from it.

        I am sorry that I didn’t respond to the rest of Celia’s longish
piece but I got stuck at the very first sentence. There was plenty to say
right there.

        Eva Balogh

P.S. I am afraid I have been away all day long and I will be away all day
long tomorrow and therefore I am unable to answer some of posts which
concern my earlier utterances, including Mr. Nemenyi’s boss. I will try to
answer the posts Sunday.

Later he has got sponsoring from donors via the New Yorker Civic Society (New York-i Polgari Kor) (http://newyorkpolgarikor.com/) (One of founders is Akos Szilagyi http://szilagyiakos.com/ ) and he created a website nemenyi.net dedicated to nationalist far right style political instigation, and he has been actively publishing in far right nationalist toned media dedicated for readers of Hungary, while he lives abroad.

sylvester belso poses as bust statue of a schythian warrior - photo credits peter nemenyi

Some of the Belso brothers are even weirder, when it comes to false nationalism.

brother 1

brother 2

brother 3

We don’t know whether Sylvester agrees with such activities of some of the Belso family members, who are inciting to kill the Jews, while their grandfather was a victim of Nazis, and their father was a political prisoner of the Communists.

We would be not surprised if we would read in future news about they took part in some false flag actions. However, we hope such will not happen, and the competent security services of the affected countries will focus their attention on these strange behaviors, and will do their investigations and the preventive actions as required.

Sylvester Belso bearded photo

This is something to think deeply about.

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